coming out was my share of industry questions we can get one sector question dream Hello, hello hello hello. Welcome back to me is live it is a beautiful Monday morning and liberty is is gonna sweat it it's raining a lot right now in the UK but it's okay to be here. That's the main thing okay so I'm just gonna say hello to a few people that have been in the room as it were before I went live so first of all LJ first one Hello LJ now LJ What's your name? What's your real name? Like not What's your real name? Obviously those are your initials, I assume it is. That's such a random thing to say if I'm completely one of them. Anyway, hello, LJ it's lovely to have you in the room cat drums Cabela's is here. Hello, Carl. So he's saying that he thinks he's nailed down the set for his new project with what we're going to talk about today. But always work levelling up. So I'm so glad you called. That's awesome. 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Hello walkers. How are you? How are you doing well. Oh, and LJ is learning Jones while Hello Lauren James. It's so lovely to have you here and I feel like you're a new to me name. So welcome that you enjoy the madness that is this podcast, YouTube series, whatever you want to call it. So today I want to talk about it's basically a skill that I have practised that I've learned by his home since 2008. Is when I was introduced to it and it is it's the best thing ever. If you can sort of like invest the time to work out how to do it best for you. I will talk about how it works me but it is literally the most brilliant thing ever. And that is how to learn songs quickly. And the way that I personally do that is through drum shots. Now I've spoken about John John a little bit before on the previous podcast, but I thought it'd be nice to just do it live with you so you can truly see the process we can talk about it. So here's what I wanted to share just some stories that illustrate exactly how, how much just learning this one skill has served me forever it feels like so I like that was first introduced to it in 2008 by this awesome drummer who added Tracy and he was like yeah, like he always did charts and I guess I should learn to do that because that's more professional and she learned to do that too. And and I sort of started doing this this thing of charting songs and a first grade difficult but in 2010 So I've been doing it for probably about a year and a half, maybe two years about 2010 That's right. Yeah, I got a phone call. It was late one night. I was on my way to remember and apologies if you weren't here this day, but it I just think it illustrates this so well. There's a phone call from someone that I hadn't heard from in probably about six or seven years. And he was a manager for Eliska and he called me and got me along. He's really good at picking and I was wondering what do you want to tomorrow and I was like, oh well I'm just going to give but after that like tomorrow I don't want anything on why he's like oh, great. Could you come and do a deep dive? And I knew I was still someone that worked with a lot is some younger shows. We've done the showcase with this Greg, GM, Jerry but nothing ever came of it. And it was kind of just you know, it was just a manager like, cool. And I said No Yeah, yeah, got to that's fine. You can just some of the songs and music with Bryan Ferry was like, Okay, so anyway, I wouldn't do this gig. You can imagine how difficult it was to concentrate on this gig. Can I just say whilst I was thinking about this tomorrow, so you've worked very hard, and then when I got home probably about midnight usual thing was that I then stayed up and I charted all the things that I needed to learn before that was about eight months into the very short set. So growing up in that respect, but what that meant was I had the sheet of paper it was not ideal, you know, it will be great to go and play a gig and just be able to play it but I knew that I had these these charts that I could live on that I could Yeah, me so anyway, I went and did this gig and it went really well and I was really happy and Alice there was really happy and I ended up playing in his finance function band to the point about like, you know, in corporate bonds in terms of what am I trying to say? Cool down for the following. I'm gonna say like three or four years. So that one skill of being able to chart had I not had a I would have been so much more stressed out but they I don't think I would have been able to do such a good job. And there was another funny story. Now this kind of just tells you how absolutely mental I am. But it's related to the barbarian thing. So when I was working with Brian, this gig came in the New Year's Eve and it was a new Texan kcot beautiful island like all this other stuff anyway, the party that we were playing on top Turks and capers was Princess party as in print and then rinse so I'm the management policy sort of said look, there's a chance to appear to want to get up and play with you guys afterwards. Maybe heard about learning from songs Well, me being the absolute you know, crazy person I am. I decided the best thing to do is to learn all of prints and songs. Every single one of you back catalogue. Now. I don't know if you've ever seen how many songs Prince has written and recorded. It's Unbeliev it's hundreds of songs. So anyway, I set this task for myself just so that I had heard every single person and had some sort of internalisation I knew that I couldn't you know, this this timeframe. I mean, it was literally to do it. I knew this timeframe wasn't realistic actually internalise and properly learn every song but I thought like if I've just listened to each one of them, and if you've done a char, then at least I've got some sort of reflection. So I then proceeded to charge all the criticisms to be fair, I don't think I made it. I don't think I made it through all the trials because there was so many and I was just like, You know what, maybe this isn't the best use of my time. Maybe I should just be actually playing and play his like Top songs and just really internalise them that's probably a better use of time. But the point is, I kind of knew that I was able to have this skill to learn the songs really quickly if new thing. So anyway, let's say that's more of an insight into the mental illness of meaning. And then another time when it was so useful was I was playing mood tricky and this was in Romania, Lebanon. So we were in China and basically we lost half by not like lost, they got lost, you know, they had to go home. And we were left with me. backing singer, a bass player, and tricky. No backing tracks, which obviously is triple what we don't want to do. The amazing triple bar is massive in the 90s Brilliant stuff, but a lot of his stuff is electronic. Usually we'd have a keys player who's also been tuned in backing tracks with none of that. And it was like, Oh my goodness. So I came up with a plan formulated a plan where we were going to use the album tracks and the front of house guy was going to EQ out like the drums and the bass too so that we can sort of slot in, but we didn't know the structure of any of the songs that were recorded on the album because the way that you've been on the shows is that he basically you start a song you might play like an intro and verse, and then you start playing with people and sort of like controlling the sections where they're going by different movements. The and I won't go into it but the point was we had no idea what the structure of any of the songs were anything that we would have on the part because we've been playing them but we didn't know you know what was coming where anyway. For some reason I ended up with a task. Basically charting out I think it was like 30 songs of turkeys and just yeah, just everyone was looking to me. Everyone on stage was looking to me to kind of direct the bandwidth where we gonna go. So that worked. It was good. We did a show. It wasn't great. It wasn't the best show in the world, but it worked. Moving forward the contract just doesn't haven't closed my door for one second. very universal. I'm hearing lots of drilling and I'm thinking that maybe you will be able to. So anyway, the point is, again, that skill served me and had I not been able to chart songs that quickly you know, I literally listened to each one once did a chart and the next time we played on the drum again. Now I was comfortable with that because at that point I've been talking for three years and now at this point I've probably been Robin charting for a lot longer now. So it's definitely a thing and also, I know that it sounds kind of rubbish and lame but even if this is a reason to do it because it might appeal to you. I don't know even just the fact of like for instance go to an audition and a lot of the times they won't send you the tracks are from because sometimes they're very sensitive you know, you don't they don't want to be leaked or whatever else. But getting into an audition situation and someone playing your song once you just do the champion right okay, ready to go. I can't tell you the amount of people the amount of reactions I've had that's been like, what what you can just play it now. Yeah, should we should go do it and just that look of like, wait, what don't you want to hear it again? No, no, we can go it's fine. So anyway, let's get into this chart. So because I recognise the first few there are some non jobs in the room. So apologies, this is going to be dominating but the concepts are the same. And it's more about finding your own way of doing things. So I'm just going to run through sort of the slow time version of how I do my charting and the reason is that like some people never charged for there's other people that are watching right now, but like whole Bayless races. I know you're already doing your own trials, but I'm hoping you can kind of get glean a little bit of info from this anyway. Now the song that I've chosen to do is fairly simple, but there's enough in it that you can get an idea is a song that I love it's Highway to Hell by AC DC which is just I love it. I absolutely love it. So I'm going to put us onto this on my iPad here. So let me run you through how many tables so the idea is I'm going to do three wonders. I think it's gonna be more like two and a bit because of the nature of the song but 313 So first time we're gonna go through, all we're gonna do is write down the structure of the song. Again, this is useful because if you sort of know this already, which I'm sure a lot of people do, then you might not need all the intricacies because you understand what's going to happen next because you just you know some inside out, you might you know struggle with the structure and it's fine. The second time we're gonna go through we're gonna write down the basic beats that happened throughout the song, and which basically there is one so apologies for that. That's That's what to say that's probably going to be the heart and the third time we're going to do any specific fills or accents that are really important to us. And they go three times through and then you'll have your chart you can work from obviously the more that you do it the quicker you can get. So once your appointment which it doesn't take that long to be honest. You can literally just listen to it once to try it and it's really useful to do also really good if you're doing remote recording and you're learning other people's songs every day where literally just write a chart. Great. Go record it down. It's it's it's a game changer like this, this thing if you can get get into it. It's amazing. So let's just get on with this. Also, apologies if you're listening back on the podcast on Spotify or whatever, Apple podcast. This is obviously going to be a bit of a visual epic episode. If you want to watch your back just check out on YouTube just search for Emily's live Chartering and it will come up no doubt. I hope we shall see. So alright, Highway to Hell. So first things first, a title because that's really useful. The other thing that I sometimes do as well if I struggle remembering how a song goes because a lot of time obviously, if you're starting the song and you can't get in, can't hear it in your head, then you can't get the tempo you can't have the right feel whatever. I often will also put lyrics before or after retiree just to remind myself how it goes. So I might say on this corner here. I'm on the I'm on know roughly what the tempo is and I can kind of like County and then we can go from there and I'm sure once it starts hopefully fingers crossed. I will remember how it goes some highway tell I've got it ready to go. But there we go. So what we're going to do is okay, we're just gonna listen through it once and we're gonna put in the, the sections. If you can't hear me talking, let me know and I'll try and do something about it. So like if you can't hear me talking over the top, if that makes sense. Okay, all right, let's go intro so we're just counting the bars 323423416 So this when the drums come in, so I put a star where the drums Come in 344234 That's tip 345678 Just the counting game 1011 1314 15 Two to three. So the end of that verse is a bit so I'm going to put that as a separate section because it's a change basically anything that that whether the change or a natural break, I will always break up so that verse to me that that build is two bars and a separate so am I leaving put here b and just to make it easy and again you could probably do this on the second time round. But if you do either during the first thing, just stop it and start it that's totally cool as well. So we are now into the car too Oh, sorry. Say oh no, that seven Yeah. to do. So, to stop. And then back to a verse taught in Canterbury that's terrible in 567 No, you could probably guess as well all the time ever. I'm gonna guess 1512 1415 And then oh, yes, the build again. So, the other thing is, it's really useful if you can and obviously the more you do this, you know sometimes what happened, coincidence, but making it so that your sections kind of come under each other. So the two verses are kind of you can read them. The kind of that makes sense. That can help with just reading a chart generally because this is a chart you know, it's not an in depth chart. It's something it's a roadmap for someone that you know, just be able to glance, know where you're at, know what you're doing and move on from there. Okay, so we carry on we're into, we're into chorus two here. So let's see if I can count this one properly. four by six, seven. Scope again. Okay, so this is like add another section so 5234 Now we'll actually we will obviously flesh that out. And we will try that out because that is very obviously an important section that stops there's bills if you like, but for now we'll just put it as a tag. We know that it's five bars, and we'll fill out later. In fact, I'm going to leave that space as well because that sounds like there's a lot going on. So we can just go from there. So now I believe we're into Oh, I was also going to say as well we will also. So are those accents and of course again, it's just all we're getting right now is the structure so I think we need to toss away 205 fixed to the course again to 2367. So there's something that happens there. So, Cem 234. So we know that something's gonna happen, but in saying that it is still the is still the cause. And so we could write this in a number of ways. I'm going to choose to write it in a different way to everything else because then at least you get to let's go so let's go back to this course again is the last course 3472341 So, like I said, there's a change there so we're gonna go for another Calvin from the left another number six, seven. Yeah. And then we just pause this as a poor sign. So stop waiting for the vocals so Wow. We're looking for that. And then we're going to do a fresh which was a little fun at the end, but we'll do that because that's kind of in the next phase. So here we go. We have we have our we have our structure, basically. And like I say, if you already know the song that this might be enough for you, we might be able to then go and actually play the gig and that's fine. I have songs that were able to do that they still might need more information. Let's say that you need a little bit more information. Let's say you know those girls but you can never remember what the favourites. So this next pass, I'm glad to say because the beat is pretty much the same throughout. We're probably just going to do it for the intro because the rest is kind of the same. So what I'm going to do, I'm going to change colour, so that it's kind of more obvious where the The beat is if that makes sense. So that if you are again glancing down to the right, I know where the beat is going to be in blue and so is worth having, obviously a little bit of knowledge of how to take your instrument. It doesn't need to be interpreted. It can be really, really basic and I'll show you like I'll show you exactly what I will write for this this song. This is all that I write for highlights power and go so that was the entire number that's fine. The star is where we start so we know this the beat okay, this is how I write this thing take me to bars. Just kick snare kick, snare, not even any house because the way that I seem charting is that you should only chart things that are not logical to you that are don't come naturally to you. So what I mean by that is, if I see just a kick, snare kick, snare, I'm going to play half so I'm going to play a tonne of hats because it just makes sense. If it was 16th note, I probably wouldn't write 16 I wouldn't write like 16 High half notes. If that makes sense. I probably just put 1616 1616 hats, then I know that it would be better to get it together to put it into the gap. Equally, you know if it's core nodes, then I'd put that if it was no hats at all. I would put no hat but my instinct would have been a powerhouse. So I don't know anything. There's no point in terms of the rest of the song. It's literally like accents and stuff. So we've got the building. Again, my natural inclination for a build would be for a rock song for this song especially by the time I get there because I kind of know the vibe is I would be on the snare and the quarter. So therefore I'm not going to put anything more than that. However, it will say the floor tom and the Hi Hat opening. I would maybe put that just put build floor tops. So something really simple because this is the other thing. These don't need to be notated in a traditional way. You look at my earliest childhood before I learned to properly talk. I used to write them write things as a list and it would be words like for instance, lamppost b Now, that doesn't mean anything to anyone else. But I knew exactly what I meant. And I would know what to do. There's no one green day thing I knew existed no exactly what that means. It's just you know, the further you go, the more songs that you play, the more people have been playing with me and someone who's a little more universal because sometimes it is difficult to kind of put those they're very narrow those kinds of ways of trying so you just got to find your own way of doing so. That is basically the chart in terms of the beat. The other thing I would also do is if you have a highlighter, I would usually put a square around the beat again, this is just to do with glancing at it and knowing what the beat is. I know where to look. I'm looking for the yellow square, the yellow square will save my day. So that is what I would do. Just sort of like find your own way your own system of doing these charts. You know that when you look at it, you know exactly what you're looking for. So let's get on to the slightly more interesting bits of the song. So we'll keep going from there because there aren't any accents or anything like that, but we'll go so we'll just shoot. We'll just keep listening because it's a good sign in the day and that is everything. So we're still in the bus 82392 Now you'll hear there are some intricacies and stuff in here, but for me, it's the simplicity. Those things might come in time. You want to be able to just play the song or the essence of the song. Sorry, for the bill. 3234 So, on the three in the four of Barton, there are caches. So again really change my colour, I'm going to go to red. So these are accents that I need to have. Now the way that I would write these accents, because it's the other thing so they're on let's carry on listening for seconds. We know that far too. And we just have those outcomes and we know we know the bars as well. So let's go just from the start of that. And we're going to remember what the bars are. This is two to the right course 1234 bar 234567. So, we know that on the even bars basically, there are those accents. Something else happened on seven. We'll get to that in a second. So four to four, and six. I'm going to put in brackets, this is what happens. So I do score rounds, which are like David, they're like board slashes if you like that just means play the beat as is. And then in fact all four. All four beats are exactly as they're playing the only through his accent is the fresh so what I will then do is the pressure and do a crash here. And that tells me that I'm still playing the beat. But on bars three sorry beats three and four those bars and hitting the crash gap and get in touch. Very simple, so simple, in fact, and then both seven. We know that something else happens because there's a stop. Don't stop on the one. So to me, that's not unusual. But if I need to remember that, so I'm going to write something across the line that goes between the seven bars of the chorus and the two bars of stop, which is no one. So if you wanted to you could actually be a little more specific. You could actually write in the forehand of the first stop here. So I just played this game sorry I'm saying it but that's what it is. 1234 and 1234. So if you wanted to do this specific accent, which you probably shouldn't have been there, you can do that. So again, you could put them in brackets and put a seven by it just so that you know that was bar seven. You could even write four and at the bottom just to remind you it's forehand that you're going to stop on then there's no one so two bars have stopped and then we go straight back into course. Oh there was a third wasn't there? I'm not even listening normally three. So 123 and four. So all it is. So again, I would put the film on the bar line between the stop and Burstein so and for so long. So again, it's a lot of the time is just to do this sort of counting. So, again, we've got to buy this for and so 123 and four. So, again, find your way of like actually writing the music help because there are many ways that you can kind of write your music obviously the drummer is a completely different way to guitar is so that is a whole thing in itself. So yeah, we just want to pick out the things that are important that people are expecting to hear basically so we're going to first to do this a good time to check your bars as well. That's the thing another build. Now as we know, one, two same thing same thing is the first course 567 same thing so we know the other section, but we know that that is the same as the first course now you can either just repeat what you've written on the first one, or you can just leave it personally. I would write it because i I know myself and if I don't see those accents, I think oh so that accents were just for the first quarter. So let's let's do this. So we'll just do the same thing two or two four and six and chorus player as is but we just need to accent the three and four. And then four seven is exactly the same. So and then we come into this tab which is slightly more complicated, but I've left the space for it so it's totally fine. So let's just count this out and work out what's happening because see on the slide Oscars so great, we've got 12345 Let's start again. So 72345 Let's just focus on that one second about one thing. So we know that the first bar is a stop. So in fact what I'm going to do is I'm going to write this out in bars because there's a there's a pattern. So the first bar is 1234 for us. Nice and easy. We love for us. Second bar is the gab gab, gab. gab, gab. So, all we need to do is count this out, so I know that it might sound a bit competitive on the front end if you like. bar if you can just slow it down if you can sing it in your head that that down 1234 Sorry, let me do it on I'll type it out so you can hear it in case you're listening matters 1234 So the right hand is the snare and the crash on the left hand is just the kick so so write that out. Just as as much one, two and three. And then we can actually write the notation so one is the snare drum and the crash with two and a kick drums, so we just need to put them in a lower level. So one and two and fix them and so again, if you just write down what the time is, and if that's going to help you in this other thing as well. Don't be precious about what your chart looks like if it looks like really basic. If it looks like you don't know what you're doing. Don't worry about that. It doesn't matter literal. Now automatically you understand what's happening. So 1234 That's gonna help you right? I don't care like it's all good. So that's that two bar phrase if you like happens, scales 74 1234144234 So there we go. We know that that happens twice. And then there's just it just happens another one time. So what I would do with that situation, do a little I would do that stuff is a little bit closer to my liking anyway, times two. So I know that I'm doing that twice. Plus okay, this does get a little wide. So I know that one and so it just carries on my what I will do a little kick drum in a bracket there. What that means is the second time through, I do that again that's in the bracket. I know that that's very specific to me, but I understand what I mean. But again, you need to know what works for you. And then we just plus plus if it's too large I think you need to just make this a little bit smaller again how'd you begin to come and watch them Okay, so gap the gap gap. One and two and 31234. And again, it has that same motif of the three and the four just hitting the crash of one, two, and three. Again, the more that you do this, the quicker you can get and you can just kind of like a breeze through it. Right and then we're on to the solo. Now the solo that I forgot to write is it's always good for the sections. That are different, but actually they're part of like they're the same as another section. For instance, the Solo is actually in for us. So it's just good to know that because I'll know okay, I probably need to be doing those accents. So that's always good. So again, you can write the accents, but I think by that point, you kind of notice go on. So again, is it's your discrepancy if you want to if that's gonna help you just write whatever you need to write. Oh yeah, there's 123452346237234 and one, two, bang, bang. So, again, what we can do here is we just do bar eight because it's going to make sense to us because we know the somebody's been playing it so one to save to rest, and then just being by when we go to the next half of the sorry, the second course. 23567 Stop, wait with the Force Base. On waiting for the vocalist to basically say whoa and then we go. Crashes Why did I let that die out? I mean do a deep crescendo there. Just let it die out. And then whatever you want to do for that infill. I personally would do this as a film. Just because I know in my head that means like a difficult like a blues. Ending like a blues rock boom, done. And then I will also underline it like that. To me that means as soon as ended at the end of the song, though, that's the end of the plan, I should say. So there you go. That is a highway to hell chart. seemingly simple song as far as but there's sometimes a little more to it than when you think about it. But again, the more you do this, the quicker you get. So I have actually been just in the early debates. You can have a little look at it last I talked about this, but I know that a lot of people it's one of my great joys is when I get a message from someone who has used this charting system or their own charting system or has just been introduced to the idea of trying to learn songs and then they send me their charts or they tell me about how they've managed to do this gig because they now chart songs and it gives me I cannot tell them how much joy it brings me to know this word for people. And I've been able to share this with people. Yes, it may look complicated when I'm doing this. However, trust me when I say the more that you do it, the easier it becomes and the more that it will serve you and the more that you'll be able to actually do more work you'll be able to do, the more gigs you'll be able to see the more people you'll be able to work with. This literally will open up the more things you will be able to invest in because you're able to rely on yourself your own abilities. I know for a fact, if I've written a chart if I have learned a song by writing a chart, I can go and do it. I know that for a fact and it's there's no comfort in hire having that confidence in yourself because there is there's not a huge amount I know with certainty that I am confident about the Chinese woman and it works for me so I just wanted to share but what I was gonna say was now I do know that accountability is such a powerful thing. And I think that I'm sure there's some people listening to this or watching this that are being I'd love to do this but I know me I won't be able to keep up or whatever. Like I just can't be asked whatever I have created. I've created a seven day challenge challenge and it is just for you. All you need to do is sign up and what's going to happen is first of all, I'm going to send you another thing plus 15 charts along with the players so that you can read my charts and we can listen to a playlist and kind of read along with him. Very similar to what we've done today. Some are a little more simple. Some are a little more complicated. Some are from when I summer from literally the day that I recorded before Okay, so again that was hearing the song once and charting it and it was in the studio that was the day after that did by the way that I spoke about earlier. That's how good a job I did. They were like oh come in and record on the next album. Okay, crazy. Anyway, I was able to sit down listen once chart from chord again, really impressive. I think I think some of them when I was learning the songs for the darkness when I started playing them. Some of them covers being so there's a real there's an array of different charts, which hopefully you enjoy. That's that's the first thing but then every day for the next seven days, I will send you one Songs chart now the end of the seven days. Once you've finished all your charts, if you spend send me what you've done and it's not about me looking at and judging it and going is this any good? No, no, no. Like these are yours. The way that you chart as long as you understand what's happening as long as they're helping me. I'm just trying to facilitate a reason for you to get organised because I feel like it's such an important skill. If after the seven days you finish your charts and you send them to me, I will send you a personal video message just to say like, congratulations, you're amazing basically. So I hope that's enough for women incentive and accountability to get you to do this because honestly the best is it's it is just the greatest skill of being. And it's so transferable to so many different areas of your plan. So anyway, I put that together. All you need to do is go to Emily's live.com forward slash level and you can sign up for my seven day charting challenge and I can't wait a software anything I feel like they quite artistic, although so it's quite nice to see how people do their charts just as an office. So I'd love to see it for that reason. But if you're interested like say go to Emily's live.com For slash 11 and you can sign up to my John chatter and chat or my charting challenge is not just open to dramas in any musician so you don't need to be a drama. Just Just do the work. Do the work and show me Okay, let's go back to this camera. Okay, so let's go to some questions. So I'll go to there's a couple of questions that I had before. So I'm going to answer those first. Again, if you want to ask your own questions and can't join us live you can ask them enemies live.com You just need to sign up and then you can ask whatever you like and I will do my best to answer it in half decent range. Okay, so the first question came from Nathan Lee, saying how can I make my drums sound better? This is a massive topic and it's very difficult to kind of talk about just by talking. But I think people emphasise a lot about kind of what drums they're playing, if that makes sense. You know if it's a DWT, or Premiere, or if it's an Hurlock school I this really interesting thing happened to me when I was a kid was probably about 1212 Is it and I've been playing for about a year. And I remember seeing there was a kid who was a new 11 I was in New Zealand, and his name was Ben. Something I can't remember. I wish I could remember and he was the best drummer in school. That was 16 I was still there was. Anyway, I was playing one day on one of the kits that we had in the school. It was this old beat up premier kit. Now I would probably adore her and be like oh my goodness lift kit ever. By the time I busted the head to a rubbish and I would play in my head I'd go well, it just I don't sound that good because the drums are rubbish. It's not because I'm rubbish. Anyway, this kid Ben Taylor. I don't know why it didn't matter. Anyway, he came in and it was kind of like the dumping in then comes in or a couple of others George or pebbles come in. You get apart from the job and later. Ben came in and sat down for the same kit that I was playing. I was like, you know, obviously rubbish because the kit was rubbish. And it just a heads up this. He said and it sounded like magic. And I was like Oh, and this is a very early lesson in learning that actually it wasn't about the John's you. Is that how you play? So I think to make drum sound better I think focusing on your sort of your touch, how you're actually paying them is really, really useful. I don't control the nuance of the time itself. So yeah, I'd say focus on that. And you can do that by recording yourself in some back. And then the next thing to definitely look at is just learning a basic sort of levelling tuning. I think drum tuning is so important. But the other thing that people don't really talk about I've heard of the dungeon is the importance of tuning to remember. It's not about being able to tune the drum. I know that there's these things like we're tuning dumb dial or whatever they call it, which I think I haven't submitted. I don't know where it is. I've looked lost a bunch of stuff in the move but I still haven't found I do have one which is great 2.5 That piece of equipment is not it doesn't have abs and your ears again, the best thing to work out what you don't What does it sound like and how you can get that sound tuned into the living room because this room is fairly well treated. So it just sounds great. But if I was in a hole somewhere, I would chew my dog then definitely I would probably put a lot of damage on them. Just to make sure that you're not too crazy to me reflections going on. Equally. If I was in a really dead spot, then I would go do Papa John's a little bit and then and let's say chin to the wall because insulin has frequencies that the jobs resonate with. So it's all a lot more complicated than simply just get a better job. Like that's never the answer in my experience like or very rarely, very rarely. So I think yeah, to make the drum sound better. There's definitely a few things to damping as well as interviewing but I think experimenting and just experimenting with what you've got because if you can work with what you've got, then you're just going to stop. So I think hopefully that happens. So next question is from Adam, who was saying What were you surprised about when getting on to bigger games? What was I surprised about? I think at the time, but you know, here's the here's the honest ones, I call them out. But looking back from where I am right now, I think the biggest surprise to me is how similar the feeling the the anticipation, the expectation of playing say a puppy versus getting 20,000 people. It's the same. It's not there's no difference there. Like it doesn't matter if it's five people or 500 people. The expectation is the same. The level of quality is the same. The things that I focus on are exactly the same. So it's it's I guess the surprises how like, like say it's from this point on who's wondering, is this a con i honestly I can't even remember what because this is the only thing going from like Yeah, going too big against society. Thank you don't realise that they go into bigger gigs because the DC we're playing normalise so quickly. So, going from the pub in Hammersmith, to playing in the O to Academy instance. It's It's not like you go from that to that incident. There's a lot of in between, there's a lot of both. It's a very gradual release the water main net is not for everyone. But for me it feels like it's a very graduate felt. And the other thing is it's not necessarily as linear as just goes in an upward motion. It's kind of there was a point where I remember this is such a great way to this is a great way to illustrate my career. So I did this field which is a jazz is called a million people. And I adore this. I don't have it spoken to for so long. And we were supporting Alfie by and that was at the Royal Albert Hall and amazing game and we've done that with him but we've done a whole bunch of shows in those arenas that are massive. It was great. It was amazing. But more elaborate. And obviously, as a Londoner, that's one of those games of interest and is one of the best deals that you can do and it's on the bucket, that sort of thing. So I played that game with all these people in this beautiful room and the next night. I want to play a local did anything, which was like a brunch, like, with like 40 people in this very sweaty, small park. And there was just as much value for me in both of those shows. So and there wasn't much difference in my feeling towards both shows if that makes sense. So it's not as simple as right well, once you play the role of alcohol, you keep going. No, no, no. It's constantly like, the sort of bigger gigs if you like smaller gigs if you like, you know, it's just all sorts of stuff. And then there's all this other random stuff that comes in and you just don't even you can't even quantify playing on the voice key. Perfect example. I can't even quantify what that is as a gig, because it's so unusual. So yeah, in terms of, like surprised about getting into bigger games. I guess the only surprise is that they aren't the same. They're all the same. They really are. I know that probably sounds weird to hear but to me it really is they are the same. Okay, so let's get into the chat in the room. I'm hoping that I haven't completely fried your brains. I recognise that it's I'm usually like a lot quicker to come to the chat in these than I am right now. So right David? From mine says Jeff Hawkins just subscribed on YouTube. And theories are amazing. That's really good. Another review, let me say hello. Hey, Emily, unfortunately, I'll save the conversation but I'll listen to podcast later. Have a good time. Thank you for popping in numbers. Lovely for you to do that. Johanna so Thanks, David. Don't use in Santa Fe. Avoid pretty much all social media like the plague. It's true Joe. I often try to take you on Instagram and I often come up short and then I remember that you don't really do Instagram. But your YouTube channel is so spectacular. I'm very much one for investing the time in a post that your audience's if that makes sense. So that's exactly why I'm here doing this right now chatting with you guys because to me, this seems the most valuable out of like every social media platform home use, I suppose. And now might have been different at different times. But right now I'm loving to ruin cat Ron says Andy Tracy's fire but last saw him with Nick Hayward before the dark times. Oh, yeah. No, I saw that he was playing in the COVID and I'm not sure but his his big four years was fakeness. That was a pretty amazing time really important. Oh, Jay says Whoa, fair play. That's a lot of songs to learn. Go go. Well, I don't know which one you're talking about. Oh, probably tricky. For instance, what I think was going to happen I mean, it was not an uncommon thing for me to get called for a coverage day on the day of the gig and it will be 40 songs. I didn't know they do you and I would chart all of them. That was a regular occurrence. So yeah, I just love it. Oh, now I know what you're talking about a lot of something I'm with probably the prince thing. He has a lot of songs. He has a lot of things. I know that I knew this in theory, but honestly when you actually sit down and do it is just like wow, but really useful for things like when I stopped home. I knew that I turn on my back camera because I knew that anyone time they'd say, Oh, let's just play. I don't know, dinner lady arms or Oh, no, we should pray to my hazel eyes or whatever. So I would know. I would at least have a chart to reference. I might not know it, but I know how to get it done. Does that make sense? And it may not be perfect, but it would get the job done. So let's say that relying on myself and something so powerful. And so then from answers, I'm a plague doctor. I don't know what that distribution between people from typically from home during the day. Okay. So Mark has cartoon johns's don't leave us on a cliffhanger. Did Prince Prince actually get off a plane? Did I not say no, he doesn't know he did and my biggest heartbreak. i I wish he would have been amazing. But yeah, unfortunately not. But again, it's just it's one of those at least I spend the time doing all the stuff and I felt prepared to a lot as prepared as I could. I you know it was his pie who was there? Apparently someone's ready to concern him. So I saw I feel like it's nice to know in my own head, at least for maybe one day person. That's very, very sad. And LJ says that sounds like magic. Someone says how many Sorry, can't Jones Day hit the thumbs everyone. Thank you so much. It was lovely to see you and yes, if you're doing this just hit the like button. Someones really good at this. I'm terrible. Hit the like button, subscribe, share with your friends, whatever. It's really fancy even David Cameron says magic wand. This is always so difficult when I come back from the chat. I'm not sure why he's talking about that Black says Warning in work. So quick question Would you rather be reincarnated as a sea creature or airborne creature to a crazy cat? Sea Creature creature the tattoo I am I'm a bit of a water baby. Well, I used to have any I am has much. Do you know what? This is really weird because I'm in conversation with parents literally yesterday around the house and I said, you know I realised I thought that I was obsessed. With the same like in terms of an ideal outlet can harsher. I would have told you point blank. You see, I'd love to see the say and I do love to see this. However, when we move to I really I don't think it's actually the field that I was obsessed with. I think it's actually good sky. I think the sky is just rethinking thing. I do think there's some really fun just changing careers just so when you have a large expansive sky I think it's the most breathtaking thing. I really do. So I'm going to go with an empty chair. I feel like the scene. It's quite dark sometimes although it will be interesting seeing the things that no one has seen that someone will look around and so David said, Oh my god, I was doing something now and use yellow marker to then you said you were gonna use a yellow on my level all of this almost Oh, this looks almost like math to me. But I think it's really interesting. Yeah, apologies honour. I know that you are monodrama I know about bless you for sticking around and watching. I really appreciate that. But yeah, like I said, there is almost an artistic element to sing other people's shots. To me. I just say as a practical thing. I understand that reading is like reading a book by seeing other people just before you fascinating and really beautiful all the time. So yes. So David says I know there's a lot of math and music is true. A lot of counting, especially for Johnny's Watson comes in honestly, David, I can see that now. I never knew that. But hey, I know how to milk a cow in the car. No, I have no clue how to milk a cow. So you can do that and I'll do this. How's that good deal? Elisa, hello, Allie. How are you? Hello. I just saw the email. So I've missed loads but we'll definitely wear this out watching the recording. Yes, please do watch back and hopefully can help. I see. It's so busy anyway, we know you've been drumming more than most that bill like I love watching your videos is so good. David finances, Johann Sebastian Bach. I was told that he is an incredible organist. He was he was upset about it. Then he said he's just pushing the keys in time. That was the map. I never knew that. Story. That's good. alleys. Chapters chapter. So Ellie says I used it on the note app you sent me for the gigs. I'm doing more Kalyana genius. You Oh, that's amazing. Yep. Good minutes is the thing that I use to my child. I used to do them by paper and I've scanned in a lot by paper. But yeah, having them digitally is just absolutely game changer for me. David says ah no trump try milking cow in time of the rhythm and you can hear the Jets in rhythm inside Yeah, that's true. So there you go. On him could be could be a secret rhythmic cow. No, no, that is a niche thing today for sure. Analysis and sample designs auto producing. Everyone's just laughing This whole concept. I love it. Moon cat says watching the videos you've done on this helped me immensely. Now the audition and we're planning desogen Yes, calm. You're amazing. And I was getting the songs more right than the band. Calm. This is one of my favourite things not just about charting, although it does help. Just about being so obsessive about learning stuff, and then you end up knowing the stuff better than the artist in the band. And trust me when I say it's more often that that happens is I find it so funny. But make them laughing and myself are clearly insane. I've learned it to the point that the eyes doesn't go as well as I do. But yeah, I really appreciate that those videos helped you Lexile. There are a couple of other videos that I've put out on YouTube, which are made charting in real time. So if you want to see a bunch of other charts are in there as well. So yeah, watch those back. And like I say if you want to sign up for that seven day chart and challenge that will be the best way to really hone your skills. And just one char day if you know it should really well I shouldn't say should it take as long as it takes but each time you do will get prepared. And let's say if you complete in seven days, then I'll send you a personal video congratulating you because I understand how difficult it can be at the beginning when you're learning how to do something but trust me when I say that the payoff is so great. It's it's incomprehensible and great and powerful. So Emily's like forward slash 11 Sign up to the seven day chatting challenge. And that's 11 the number not the word and LJ says how do you warm up before a show? Had a gig last night in the room was breathing and I literally can loosen up so my fills were stiff and not as great as it could be lumpy. I hear ya lumpy, clunky balls and it doesn't bring joy to me. There's a nightmare. Warming up before show if it's cold to show you what I actually do. So there's obviously warming up on a pad. As Grable pillow invited me to stand up for this. Here's what I do because I have quite bad circulation in my bag in my hands. So let me just say so here we go unscathed. Like what my cousin would call like opinion and what I'm showing you sharp with your shoulders down and what we will do is they will make blood flow into your fingers. So this is a really good way to get your warm our hand wound a little bit get some blood flow and then obviously do a bit of warming up like on a pad yeah on a pad on a pillow just doing rudiments just whatever really just to get your wrist down. Go super slow as well young dog, just something to get an incline. Either that or named Jonathan Atkinson. No, we both played him while we will often not long on the spot. doing jumping jacks do like essentially like some sort of callisthenics slash cardio mini workout on the side of stage if it's really really cold either that reminds us that I've played games where my hands are so cold that the I'm in so much pain and tricky. Is automation productive. In Russia. It was we were on stage and when I was in Saudi. Anyway, we were on so late and it was so hard and I've just never put it I started not being able to fill my hands I ended the giving that wasn't invented vnnd before on I was almost in tears I was in so much pain. And then anyone can go to the uncle so you know, it's just it's one of those things which Marcus says Robert beatdown Brown has some amazing videos about TR, tuning on YouTube. Very simply that will change the way you tune your content. And that's amazing. Thank you, Michael. So Rob it down. Brian, go check him out. If you want to find out about tuning in a very simple way there's something What am I straight to be honest because I'm all about doing things in a simple, effective way. If that means just not overcomplicate in like, I know that it's so easy to try and uncover find the secret find the shortcut or that sort of stuff. It's the principles are usually very, very simple and when it comes to tuning for me the simplest principles, listening and do I like it? That's literally just messing around. There's no right and wrong way. There's just messing around and trying stuff and see what works and you'll find things that will become your go to moves if you like, but having that freedom to mess around is much more Chris pound is here. Hello Chris. How are you? Hi Leo. Good to hear you again. Travelling from Ken to Colorado last listen why apologise please because it's a very visual episode so you will probably a bit how in the world is she talking about? Mean cat John says playing style is important to sound Yes. Similar story with Steve Vai played Brian major and Greek expecting you to sound like him. But sounded like Steve Vai. Dude, I I can't tell you how much that goes to him. And the reason is that something that sprung to my mind. I think I've mentioned this a couple times before. So before I went to meet with the darkness for the first time, I have been paying incomes from for years. And when I tell you I played I believe anything for like hundreds of times probably with multiple bands or multiple guitars. And I never even thought about it. He just played the song. Right? Okay. When I say that, I went into that room to play with them for the first time and they started playing that and the guitar sound and the tone and I was like I can swear again. Oh my goodness. That that's unbelievable. It was just perfect. It was it was like hearing the wrapping. And it's because of this moment. They're just playing and it's their sound and no one has ever I've never played with anyone else that has played that song. Like they play it which is as it should be played as opposed to is their song. But really fascinating. So fascinating. Yeah, you can find the parts that you can't sound like anyone but yourself really which I think is a great thing about yourself as well. Oh Jays are laughing at the old Charlotte says hello Sean. How are you? I couldn't quite see your shot if I haven't lovely to see once again. John says I had a major brain freeze a few weeks ago trying to count out the fill in back of black stones you hear so often and the ones they get muddled to it was hilarious. I knew exactly what you're talking about because the first time I played by his wife, and it was a long time ago, but I'd heard it so many times. I have exactly the same reaction. Oh, there's like what I would describe as say there's a song that we know how to play. To me. It's like a straight line. So very smooth and one as long as it's like black and white. There's a certain bit of that there's like a kink in the line and you're like oh, oh it's a bit like didn't and you don't think about it until you're playing in like oh, there's there's a bit less was it with Jones would have been says please join me in when I was playing me. When I first played with Ken he was talking to me about because I was covering for him. He said to me 10 songs are great. So they're they're quite user easy though. He said yeah, but simple. You'll be up soon, but they've got a few edges. So he said a few edges. I think that's such a great way of describing songs like yeah, really simple. Just a couple of edges saying we're back and back really soon as a couple of edges. Yeah, I like that. And so Simone says I'm back Vin trying to get the new cat comfortable in the past car. So nice. What the telephone. So two weeks ago for Mr. Moon cat drums had signed up for the challenge. Yes, calm. Yes. You're awesome. I love the fact that car you are charging so much anyway. Working by love the fact that you're still pushing yourself and I think that is so important. Yeah, I'm almost tempted to send you like an advanced and it doesn't exist yet but I depending on the uptake of this challenge. If there is like maybe I'll expand it to like, add challenges. And again, I don't know, this is just my brain just boom, the idea would be again, you want to do the drop. So the seven day challenge challenge go to amazon.com Ford slash 11. And you can practice your John John de Bourgh. who've done Pratik says is it possible to play drums the gloves of income ah, Simone, this is a talking point for donors throwing gloves. Well, there are places people like Vinnie who used to be involved in his dying box. And and yeah, it's not something that I enjoy it what it is for me personally, there's two things. There's a stigma that I was always brought up believing, which was your drawing board, normal drama and no new bit when for a while because you've got blisters or I don't know something silly like that. Actually, practice when I have anything on my hands or don't like not being able to follow the stick in the palm of my hand. It makes me feel really I haven't been Yeah, so it makes me feel quite out of control and I don't like that I like to really feel connected to my instrument. So I like to feel all of the stick in my hand. But there are people that use gloves, but again, they're not really for one they're more for friction. As far as I'm aware, I don't think there's any like, we don't have that. So I would be interested in that but again, can't really do it apparently have the dexterity that you need to find such a difficult thing but yeah, not for me. I don't know so far. Maybe one day. Oh, Jason, thanks so much. Charlotte baby says yeah, it's like one and 211123 and four. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah, I'm trying to think back Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. But I'm not going to sing it because maybe you find your life today and think it is Monday morning. Well, actually, it's not that technically afternoon. But anyway, I'm gonna love you and leave you on that note. If you want to join one of these Emily's live, live things then sign up amazon.com And you can also ask me questions there. You join us on a live chat or you can ask questions if you can't join us in the live chat also, again, if you want to do that seven day challenge challenge just go to me is like a forward slash level and you can sign up there Oh Ali says I'm used to fab soft kid leather gloves are used for rocking 1000 gigs. Three 315 hour days rehearsals and a three hour gig they're great for avoiding blisters. Le three rehearsals and a three hour game, that's a lot. That's a lot. At that point, just whatever words whatever can keep you going wow. You visible just as amazing. Right? We love you million. I will be back next subject. But yeah, look after yourself and speak to Nelson.
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