Hello hello hello hello Happy Monday. Welcome once again to animals live. We've already got moving people around so I'm just gonna run down the list say hello to people and then we'll get into today's today's I'm a little slow today I'm not gonna lie to you. I'll be completely transparent. We had some family over yesterday to see the house. Yeah, it was. It wasn't the right one but I was very much chatting chatting chatting, so I'm exhausted honestly. But here I am having grabbed some energy for you guys and what we're going to do today what we're spending right yeah, so please bear with me if I should hold myself although you guys are typically used to it. So anyway, who's in the room? So Debbie programme was here before I was so Hey, David Lewis. How are you from lovely Georgia. Charlotte. Good evening. Hello NATO drones in from Brazil. We've got Marcus Carr drums and say hello, Marcus. So Marcus again, lovely, lovely message, I think was literally more available than yesterday the last few days, saying that he'd actually been sort of watching a lot of this stuff. But kind of thing in sort of like just in the shadows watching your Barbies blowing David himself married and I must say Marcus is lovely to have you visibly here and welcome and anyone else that kind of is sort of watching in the shadows but doesn't really want to say hi, just come say hi, we're not scary. I am a goofball. Really, I am a complete doofus most of the time. So honestly, just come say hi, because it's always nice to kind of put faces to names and know that I'm sort of holding people up. hopefully fingers crossed, fingers crossed, that we were supposed to cover them. Hello, Stuart. How are you the wonderful Stuart Coleman from up in Scotland who is amazing, amazing musician. We love him to hear you're awesome. Simone de la Hello Simone. Ross we've got Donnie Vicodin. Hello dawn. I have a piano Riviera. Amanda one of my longest standing people looking around so always lovely to see. And we also have John hoppier, who is an incredible podcast host from Canadia. He is a drummer and he tours around he's just finished, I believe a tour around Europe. So John, tell us how that went. Because they looked amazing. His own picture on Instagram. It was it was awesome. So who cares more I hope you're well I hope you all sort of like rested after that because it seemed like quite an in text or so welcome. And we've got drums here called Baylor's. Hello. Brandon is here, aka budget drums. Hello, Adam Stanley drums is here. I just got an email from a major blow to Black is in Oh, I this is great. This is amazing. So welcome, everyone. This week I know you know how like the last. I feel like at least my intention for last few episodes has been to be very methodical and try and make it very kind of here's what you can do. Here's what I have done and I hope I can teach you do and here are some steps that I took in law did it today I feel like is not the day for that but today I feel there's gonna be a little more rambley because it's not. I don't know I just can't get a kind of 123 ABC thing in my head. But the whole concept that I kind of want to talk about and I'd love to hear your guys's thoughts on this and that is this idea of taking the things that come naturally to you or take your strengths your greatest strengths and that can mean a plane or any part of your life and telling them what you're doubling down on. Essentially I'm really leaning into them and making them your superpowers and sometimes even things that you may think of weaknesses actually can be your greatest strengths. And I will try to remember to tell you an example that I had that was really you know, as I've been thinking about this, it's really become apparent that actually things that I was told when I was younger, that's actually you know, a weakness you need to work on that have actually ended up being my biggest strength. So anyway, I'll get into this. So the sole purpose of this is it came from thinking back to when I was growing up because I feel like a lot of just, oh no, sorry, don't mind me. My brain is just going all over the shop. So when I was younger, I remember having a really strong feeling and experience where I would often been looking around other drummers, especially who were similar age to me, and I would look at their playing and I would hear them and I would watch them and you'd be like they're just the most incredible drummer I've ever seen. I want to play like that. You know, it's amazing. What I do is rubbish because I can't do that. And this was something that you know, I think is quite natural to sort of do that. I think there's a lot of benefit to look up to other players especially, especially when you're coming up and you're kind of working out what you enjoy what you don't enjoy by husbands. Eyes, you all that sort of stuff. But I would really love everyone else's playing and hate my own. That was just my default setting. And for those that don't know, I grew up with another drummer patients say we literally started playing drums on the same day. So to say that there was a direct comparison. It was literally the person sat next to me on the donkey. They've been in school at 730 every morning and we would I know we both would directly compare ourselves to each other, which had its benefits for sure, but I think it really pushed us to keep going until you know tiny things one of us will learn something new and the other person will learn something else and we shall stop. And this was very exciting. But I think it was a really interesting point that comes in anyone sort of learning journey if you like where it goes from being incredibly inspiring, and something to really embrace you know, loads of different types of music and loads of different musicians, loads of different influences where there's a switch, because I don't know about you guys, so I've had lessons for that. Since I literally started playing drums and obviously, the premise of having lessons is that if you have a good teacher, they are essentially taking your weaknesses, the weaknesses in your play, actually, which is incredible. I think it's valuable. I think it's everything. You know, my longest standing teacher is still my doll bear. I love him. to pieces. He has done so much to me not just in my plan, but in every aspect of my career. You know, mental health also stuff is amazing. But there is a fundamental thing of essentially, when you're learning something new or looking at those weaknesses, you are focusing on those weaknesses. And if there isn't a balance, there are things that you do well, or those strengths that you have, then actually wind up feeling really down on yourself. And I know that I totally fall into this trap from years and years and years and like I say, I will be out at gigs. I'll be watching friends and I would watch them paint their I'm so inspired by the hour amazing. Followed by I can't do that. Now what I would often do is then go home and go to a studio because I didn't have a drum kit at home. And I would practice these things that I couldn't do but again to be incredible because I couldn't do them in that sense. And I would sort of like painstakingly learn these things. And although it was okay I didn't embody them if that makes sense on its own just rubbish but of course the person playing that stuff and that may have been like something like gospel traps for instance, that does not coming to me to me because it's not my background. It's not what I was surrounded by in terms of music as a kid. So it's not something that is in my blood in my soul is something that I have to actually analyse and practice which is fine. But again, like I say, seeing someone who has done that for the holiday like in before they started playing drums or whatever, you know, it's been in their consciousness for a long, long time. So therefore it's just part of natural. I've heard it oh, now I can play amazing and it's a natural sort of thing. And I didn't have that. And like I say I would concentrate so obsessively on these things that I just couldn't do very well. And it really sent me into a bit of a spiral. Now, the difference or the change, I suppose pain when I also was when I was afforded an opportunity to have essentially an empty diary. And I knew that no one would be calling me for a little while to write. I don't know how I came to this conclusion, but the conclusion was, this is an opportunity to step back and just think about what I'm good at what naturally comes to me and for some reason I always used to fight or came up to me. I don't know why I was almost embarrassed. Like for instance when I was a kid for some reason. I don't know why to this day. Technical playing or like and I'm not talking about speed, just technical playing and good technique just came very naturally to me. I don't know why, but I do know that I was embarrassed by that because all I wanted all I ever wanted as a kid is to have great field. That was everything to me. And no one ever said that I had that and I was like, god darn it. I just looked good on you like Yeah, but you're really good check the guy I'm like ah, and in my head that was the opposite of what I wanted. So anyway, I don't even know why I went down this rabbit hole. But the point is, is that I ended up stepping back and going right what do I really love? What am I really good at naturally and I just decided to really commit to those things. Now at that time, this was back in 2015 I suppose beginning in 2016. I can't remember when I did that I was purely looking at my phone. And that was really great and I realised no I love my favourite thing ever and always has been before I started playing John is playing songs. And it's something that comes naturally to me. It doesn't. I mean, there's very few situations that I'm in where if I'm playing it's a jam night, not a blues jam, but we can begin the jam but it can be any sort of jazz is kind of a logical pop song as far as I kind of know where it's going, if that makes sense, even if I've never heard it before. Now, obviously I'm not competent, and I'm not perfect, but there are certain things that for some reason in my body, in my brain, in my heart in my limbs, I let it just flow. And if I trust that often it kind of turns out okay, and that can be endings that could be accents that can be when we're going to a bridge or a middle a or whatever it is. That is something that has always come very naturally to me. And it hasn't been you know, great all the time. Obviously it's developed over time, but the point is, I've just done it so much and I step back and do it well. playing songs is it's I mean this doesn't I don't mean this sound big headed or anything like that because it's not but it's not hard for me is not like a real slog in an effort to really natural I really enjoy it. And also that was an interesting thing to notice. And it was the same with like groups. I worked for two scariest words of non NSA to me is to Onsala honestly, if you want to see the fear in my eyes, say drums to me, and I'm sorry we probably won't be friends for very much longer but joking. But yeah, I hate it. I absolutely hate it. But don't mind when other people doing dumb silos is fine. It doesn't get me it doesn't like Oh, I'm just like, wow, I can appreciate that. That's amazing. Not for me. But I like rude and so is that and I was I was really interesting anyway, so I decided to double down all this sort of stuff. If you follow me for any amount of time you know that that actually amalgamated into oh let me start a remote recording business because that makes sense. I can be you know working I can be recording songs day in day out with lots of different people which I love because this was the I started stepping outside of like just drumming, just music. What else what am I who am I like what is Who Am I? Sorry, I couldn't do like the reference there for you. You know, who I am as a person. I'm someone who loves people. I love learning about people and their stories and again, and meeting lots of people. And again, this was something that really was encompassed within my reporting as a concept as what it was at the time. And I just thought, Yeah, that could really, really work. Now I'll come back to another thing that was quite interesting that I found out around this time, and that was that Colbert was That was good. That was that I saw when I was a kid. There still to be found. Oh, no. So when I wanted to start this remote within this, I thought it would be like a conveyor belt or people bugging. I would just call them barely speaking it would be like that. Just convey Absolutely not. What I worked out was I'm quite an emotional person. I don't know whether you've noticed. I'm quite passionate. I'm passionate about what I do. I'm incredibly passionate about people's songs. And I'm also very passionate about talking to people. If you talk to me if you talk one on one, it's not gonna be me. You know, looking over your shoulder, you know, looking away I will be in I will be with you. And it's just the way that I am. I've always been like that I'm very tunnel vision, which I'm sure is a bad situation, but it makes me really care. And I remember being a kid and being told by multiple people, you're too emotional for this industry you need to get thicker skin. And I honestly, I can't even tell you how he said that to me. But actually, when I and this is only fairly recently, I suppose in the last few years, when I started really leaning into the fact that yes, I am sure yes, I am passionate. Yes. I do care that deeply, like probably dig more deeply when I showed or or you know, I don't know. She said terrible ratio. And so but actually when I started doing that going, Yes, this is me. This is how I am. Things like my business thrived because I genuinely care about people and I think, to be wanting to really get that. And I'm not the greatest drawing away. Nobody. No, I don't think anyone thinks that at all. I certainly don't. But I do know that I'm really I care a lot I want to do the best for the higher power the best because I don't think that by leaning into that emotional side of me that doesn't come out in my drawing and the way that I approach things and I'm very, I don't know, I like to be very respectful of the music that I'm playing, if that makes sense and the artist and the song and subject matter and all of anchoring my whole emotional experience that now that I'm so emotional, yeah, well, I can bring that into your song. So it turned out that by leaning into exactly who I am and ended up kind of standing out, but in a really well what I perceived to be a really positive way if that makes sense. Also doing things like this. I feel like if I wasn't as secure with being so open and emotional about how I feel about stuff, I probably wouldn't be able to do something like this and connect you guys so I think you know, trying to work out what your strengths are within plan and outside of them really, really sort of help basically and it's funny because it's poorly rated, like past the things that I'm great with. Does that make sense? So obviously the current recording studio Johnstone pod this podcast Yeah, various other things that I just decide oh, that's the other thing because I'm so like independent and all this another story for a minute. But um, yeah, I aside from that, you know, I get asked I now get asked to do jobs that are really in line with what I do. So I am a song drummer, and essentially a pop drummer. I decided to really lean into that five years ago, let's say, I now play on the voice kid, which is essentially it is a programme of playing, you know, the world's most popular songs right now. And not only that, working in a way when I tell you the way you're a boy is so down. Like I love the way we like to work and they're so effective and quick and they there's no they trim the package just all that done. And when I tell you that watch my personality I cannot stress enough how much I love working with that. But how not to blend into how I work which is very tunnel vision, which is very bad. Bah, bah, bah, bah, done. I wouldn't know that about myself. But it's weird how sort of opportunities arise they really align with what you're up to when you're actually being truthful about what you're good at, and also what you enjoy the most. And trying to remember what I was gonna say about the there was something else I was going to say which hopefully it will come back to me but we should say, but I just wanted to sort of share it like that. I'm sorry, this is a little bit rambling today. But I wanted to share what my experience was to kind of hopefully try and inspire you to just sit back and rather than looking left and right about what other people were doing, you know, think about what, forget all everyone's doing because you don't find a need to just put blinkers on but sometimes I do I certainly do. As soon as I see myself comparing myself, Netherlands, I need to just be on your path because it's a unique car. And I remember hearing someone say that sometimes and I don't know whether it was to do with like podcasting or vlogs or anything like that. But it's so again being sort of used in the musical sense. There is someone out there that needs to hear what you have to say in the way that you said. And I think that sentence. I'm pretty sure that was the thing that gave me the push to do something like this, you know, to put myself out there as myself, because I just thought you know what, you're right there. You're right, bro. This random person was that I like to say it was probably a 10 second line on a podcast or audiobook, but it stuck with me and I was like maybe there is someone that needs to hear what I have to say whether that is through his photos right out whether it is through my drumming or whatever, but I need to hear it from my mouth through my experience because the sooner we relate to that in some way. And I think that that sort of powerful thought of I am sort of good enough as I am. I think you're leaning into what you are as well and really being the best version of yourself with your unique strengths. As I say, these can go outside of job or your instrument whatever it could be that you know, maybe you're also really great at drawing. And there's some sort of crossover but you know, maybe do you play guitar tracks, but then you I don't know animate a character playing as well. And this is your sort of like crossover that really is unique to you. And then no one else is doing because it is you and then maybe there's something else that also crosses over with that. Maybe you're really good with numbers do I know something random, but I think that Well I can tell you this I've never been so secure and happy in my life as when I started just accepting the person I am the player that I am. And I think that there's a lot of value in that. So I kind of just wanted to share that. I'm not sure if this helps in any way I'm not sure if you're going Emily your widow but I really don't mind to be honest because I am I am what I can't sing. That's another good thing that makes me unique. But yeah, I think I think it's really really useful to just think about what you're good at where your strengths lie and you know all you guys that are listening or the guys that are on the chat. I know you're all of you have your own unique things that you can bring to every situation which is absolutely incredible. The other thing I love, I love surprising people and I bring that into my business as well which some of you listening you know exactly what I'm talking about. Some of you won't yet, but you will you'll hopefully find out soon. And yeah, I just it's one of my favourite things, but I do that in life. I just I love to anyway, and I'm going to head over to the question there is something else I wanted to say I cannot remember what it is but I will try to remember as we go through the questions so we've got some questions that came in for him. These are fairly long questions, please do but we will get into that. If you want to come in during this podcast live. Usually there's a little more together than this. So apologies. But if you go to Emily's live.com And then you can sign up also I did actually create here if you want to work out what your strengths might be, and then how you can kind of develop those and humans through them and just go over those when you're feeling a bit insecure about you know what you can bring to the table for instance, you know, maybe you can look at that PDF and they will help so if you go to Emily's live.com forward slash Tim the number 10 Because this is episode 10 How together live today. You can download download that there. So anyway, let's go to these questions that came in before I went live and then we will go to like to learn because it works. As I say these are these are a little bit long ish. So this first one is from Marcus who I believe is in the room right now. So Hey Emily, I'm setting my own drum studio during lockdown and the government recording for myself and boyfriend. Awesome. I found your stuff really helpful helpful throughout this whole process. So thank you for that. My question is I try to record at least one drum cover every week to drum sorry to drum up. PS One of my favourite handouts for donors to drum up interest in meaningful goods concessions, apart from my friends that see it and the drum forums that I'm in and wondering if you could recommend and a great places to share material that might awaken interest from people that aren't my friends or other drugs. Marcus, thank you for your question. That's awesome. Yeah, first of all, amazing what you're doing all that content. I seen it on Instagram as brilliant and loving it and the consistency is amazing, which is a whole thing in itself. So there's a lot of value in that piece is consistency. And it does take time. It takes patience, but that thing of being top of mind is like really valuable but unfortunately it is a bit of a waiting game. So my suggestion to you I suppose would be so I know you're kind of you're aiming it at other drummers right now from what I can gather. So you're up to a friend of zero which can be anything and then drums, which is great. And I love the drum community they I mean, there's a lot of the drum community on here right now. I love you guys know that I love you guys. I think that they're the most supportive community I've ever seen. But in terms of maybe widening your scope, my suggestion would be to then start thinking in terms of your ideal client, you know, the ideal client, any remote recording business offer gigs, what would be useful? So I would say in your position, so if you're trying to promote the studio, some sort of free download if you're doing covers, this is like such a this this would be my go to thing I would record I would then offer a download of the timestamps for that cover like on the says image and video in the description, offer a download of the individual multitracks that way people can download and then they can report on top of me so they can use your to do their own cover. So details placement. Since why there's maybe those things without insurance, you know, I mean, they then get an idea of how you work, the songs that you're offering and all that. And then second to that. You can also add a different download or within that same download. You can offer just the John chat because you think about the gigs for instance. And I'm thinking mainly covers games, which you know, it's a great way to network and find musicians to work with a lot of those bands and those guys do acoustic it's just the nature of budgets and whatever venues and noise limit has, you know, that sort of stuff. If you offer the contracts, well we call it on tight on covers, in your ideal clients sort of vein of music, and they can download them and they can use them in gigs because they acoustic they want to have they don't want to have that little drum rubbish. They want to have a real drummer. If you have a bad aim, you're awesome and people like musicians will love you for it and being they will also get used to paying for access and as long as you kind of leave your stamp on file so that his you know his credit rating can use these and that way they can also link to your profiles, which will get more eyeballs on your profile. You think of it like that. How can you spread the word digitally? I can do within the files that you give or just yet tithing and all that sort of stuff. I think that would be a really great sort of next step for you and then maybe you know, look outside of just get on board and maybe go somewhere you haven't dealt with before. Like I don't know what forums you're on necessarily, but maybe like Reddit communities are really amazing. They've got a great like, yeah, user community. We're always sort of loving and doing that. I always really enjoyed that. It I think is brilliant. Facebook groups is amazing. That's a really good one. But yeah, maybe think in short, I'm trying to say maybe try and put yourself in their shoes and hope like what can I do for them? That will kind of give them a bit something for free. But more introduce them to me and what I can do for them. I think that's a really useful way of thinking. And he certainly changed everything. For me. That's how I started on stem for my free Dhanmondi type. And it has given me so much work, and also so many connections and yet people that I would never dream of bigger being in touch with that I'm just like, so grateful to be in touch. So that might be a good way of doing that. And as I say, there's another interesting thing so I'm so going off on a tangent. But there's another really interesting thing that I think is more difficult, but I know that you have stepped into this. There's world maps I saw that video is not being taken which I appreciate Marcus, that's amazing. And that is showing him your personality outside of your I think it's a scary thing to do ever. But again from experience my experience is that actually the I'd say I'd say the majority now I don't run but I think the majority of the reason that people hire me is because of my personality. And it's it's just they get to know me and it's probably equally the biggest reason people don't. But what's really nice is that he would do it for us like we almost know each other a little bit which is pretty great. And it's sort of like a great starting place to start a relationship. So do console I just introduce yourself. And there might be something as simple in that download of your video and we'll just get well how you doing. Just want to introduce myself. I'm Marcus, you know, and I don't know something that you'd say immediately. Heiser says something about the work that we've been up to recently. Or whatever, let me just add that into the pipe. Just get the platform so you have a fire hose and just to get people acquainted with you and put a personality to the drums because there's so many people name driving this, set yourself apart. And the best way to do that is just by being you basically I mean this kind of ties into what I'm talking about today. UVU is going to be the best thing that is going to get you guys working on those eyeballs masters. So I hope that helps. I'm very sorry that that's again a very rambling thing but let's see what else alright, so this one is from Jake, how do you politely request to clients to get back back to read hopefully with revisions, so this is in a remote recording business, either at the time of requesting revisions or if they respond with something like I will do back to you soon. recently. I've had a couple of people who want to take a couple of days to really listen and think about it, not realising that I set aside time for them and no one else and no one else and if they wait too long, they will be cutting into the next person's time. I realised part of the solution is putting together multiple clients that require similar Johnsons so that I can work on them simultaneously but sometimes that's not always the case. Jake. Yeah. Hi, Joe. I don't know if you're in the room Bobby would come to my channel. It's a nightmare. I you know it's a drum thing is part of the thing of being remote drummer. You know, sounds do change. Yeah, revisions is the thing the way that I had to have gotten ama I do something similar to you. So I do allocate a certain amount of time per artists, I suppose. Because sometimes it's one tribe that sometimes it's like a whole album. So I will block out time for that person. And then what I do is that there's a couple of things I do. So when I send out a proposal to people, there's an information sheet that explains about the fact that the session is set up for you, you know, I just explained it a little bit how I work within the studio just to manage expectations, I suppose. And then I you sort of say you know the probably that means to me to get done. But same as you there are still people that you know, they get they want time to sit with that. And so what I started doing is actually having a word with myself and saying to myself, right, I need to be prepared to you know, with the fact that this person might take four days to get back to me and I have another session in two days. I need to be okay with the fact that I'm I may need to re record the whole of that song again. And I think just being okay with that rather than doing dropping. comps has really freed up my stress levels, I suppose. Because as you I realise what there's not a great difference in time of just re recording the song versus, you know, stressing about them and getting a comp version that like there's not a massive difference in time. So I just decided to like, and I will say that, in fact, that's a good thing. If you still say look, if they say I'm not going to get back to four days, say that's absolutely fine. Just so you know, I have another session. So what that means is if you do want any revisions, then I will have to re record the whole track. I'm fine with that. But I just need you to know that just to manage expectations because then they may come back and go oh no, actually no this is great. It literally would be impressed that you know that you can edit. Now the interesting thing about that is that you do get quicker and better at tapes and editing. So in the long term actually is a really good thing just for this month alone. So yeah, it is one of those things you kind of need to manage expectations. The other thing is the more you work, the more you know, how long to expect to get revisions. Like for instance, I know that if I'm working with someone as a general rule, I'm working assigning Australia just due to the time difference, most of the time, that track will not be signed off for 24 hours at the earliest and I know that so I kind of try to put that into my diary into my parent, I try and work that out. The other thing is, you know, we're all also doing other stuff like for instance content so maybe instead, you knowing that I then get back to my four days. Let me think about what you're doing those three days. That doesn't mean that I'm moving anything around but I can create other context so that can be framed on videos or something, whatever it might be. And like you say, another way is just to put together similar sounding sort of songs that need a similar to answer that that also is a good way of doing it. I think it is very much just trying stuff and seeing what works best and then going from there but it is a it's an occupational hazard. Unfortunately, Jake, I wish I could give you like a one and done solution to that. But I think you just end up kind of working out what works best. And as I say the other thing is, the more you work with people, the more you know what they like so the less chance there is of people that were revisions. And also being as clear as you can be at the beginning of the process just so you can give it the best first shot as well. So, again, apologies. That's a barrage of information that I hope that it helps you in some way. Right so those are the questions that came in before I went live. And let's go into the room as it were and again if you want to join in on this live chat you can do we go to Emily's live.com You can sign up and get a watching from the day and you'd be very welcome. It's a lovely candidate here I made sure it is and everyone else made sure it is because they're just wonderful humans. Okay, so where did we get to here? So move on just jumping around and cat drama. This is how Bayes me hope you all found out this weekend that play on my own that I own my label mates album. Oh, that I played on my own his label mates album. Nick, freighters inland? Yes. What a small world so Nick freighter is he's an artist. We have a mutual friend, who this is so tenuous for Niccolo pass. He was in a bind to do that. were amazing. Mikheyev has his amazing incredible singer used to play with him years ago, anyway, recorded a song with him for his essentially proposing to his then girlfriend now wife, and Nick Fraser was the producer though this happened 345 years ago right the beginning of me John's email was in mid proto haven't heard us and friends. Oh, just so you know, I've repurposed this drum track and are losing it with them now in a couple of weeks. And then it's amazing. So yeah, if you want to go and check out some new, some new music Nick Freitas earworms and the song that I'm on is called starcrossed lovers. Go check out his really cool album very centred sounding right up my starter. Love it. Right flow here who else is weird in the roadmap? So everyone is sort of saying hello to everyone else, which unfortunately lovely. Brandon says the doofus goofball club weekly meeting. Oh, yes, you know it. I feel like the monthly drumbeats that you're in definitely dates and emphases. But we're also happy together as I am happy with you. So Adam Semia drummers if you've got leads coming up and I need to have a look at my diary and see if I can make it I have a feeling. We're in Switzerland of time. So I know the teams in Dallas. So Matt likes his afternoon to my favourite Roma after animal of course, of course, animals number one that is standard of literacy and so so, yes, yes. Family over. My stepson was there and he came in and he was spotted. Some animal songs and I was like, you like that? And then and then a couple of hours later, by coincidence, and then my husband went and put on this mutation in that switch. And the only person that doesn't have any animal memorabilia, which isn't victimless, and I've just realised that I need to sort that out. Hello, Matt. Like I am your favourite. Controversial not very good at answering your questions and answering your options person. Hello. If you haven't seen the live stream before where I've tried to answer mathletics question, do you have no idea what I'm up to what I'm talking about, but that's okay. You will see soon enough on show hooked on classic says Emily. I'm hopefully adopting a new theory on Wednesday. Congratulations Simone. That is awesome. Do you have any ideas for names a lot of times I have always wanted a black at noon book and I now have a black pack. Where does kick around outside the studio? Not if I choose to call him book. And yeah, I'm going. Commando says just looking for your own looking at your beautiful drum kit behind you. Oh, I'm not going to lie. I'm doing standing longingly at it often. His name is George. And I adore him. I've had him for a couple years. He's from that he was born in 1967. Ludwig, super classic. And I mean, it was just so amazing. You don't even have to do anything. Just sounds brilliant. John Huff says the tour was quite good. So John's just been on tour in Europe. So the tour was quite good. We got in and out just in time based on what's happening COVID wise in Germany. It's all kicking off in it. It's all kicking off Oster as well, isn't it I think something's going on there. I must say I will be 100% honest with you guys. I this is probably gonna sound crazy and you're gonna go You're mad. And don't watch the news or don't listen to the news. I haven't really for the last four or five years. Obviously things that happen that are incredibly important. You end up finding out anyway, so I'm not up on what's happening where as far as I'm aware of the UK is not locked down if it isn't the natural great because I definitely went to Starbucks with Tony earlier and we had a coffee. But yeah, so yeah. Brandon says I hate drum solos. It terrifies me. Yes scariest two words ever for me is drum solo and every musician that I kind of let slip to that about the Hansons but you know, I mean, they will often take the neck and be onstage in Milan song and otherwise we Alex wisely if you're listening Yes, I'm talking about you. I love you. I miss you. I hope you're well. And and also Richard Locke used to be a little bit to me as well. I love doing it. Did I miss you, David Bohm and with me as a superhero, I know you do a swing and thank you. That's kind I really not all I have all the light. The only thing I decided today was to just realise what came up to me and the things that like I say, people may do is actually very negative into emotional distance. And it turns out that's one of the greatest things I can offer people. The fact that I care about also the fact that I really have when I do something, I have very tiny vision about it, and I really put everything into it. All of my energy, I call her concentration, which means that I really struggle with distractions in that if I get distracted or get really upset about it, I'm sure it's some sort of autistic trait or something it doesn't matter the Baselight like the the result is the same. So what I know about myself is that I block off two hour blocks every day. So there's usually three two hour blocks every day that I have very specific things that I want to do and I do and I shut myself away. Later, maybe you will not hear from me, my phone is off. I will not respond to messages. I probably won't respond to emails unless that was part of my two hour blog. And I work and I think it's a reason that I'm able to do what people seem to think I do and I really don't feel like I do I think I just would concentrate and get a bunch of stuff. And then I move on and that's it. But I know that about myself and I've used it to my advantage because I think you know it's very easy to be distracted and all that but I'm happiest when I'm on one track when I've got one track mind. I'm happiest basically, I don't like having to flit around everywhere just really messes me up. And thank you. Sorry, you were trying to give me a compliment. I basically talked myself out of it. So I apologise for that. But thank you David for a really great time. And David says how's your boxing practice by the way? That's a great question. I have not done boxing for a good couple of weeks, and I need to get back into it. mainly looking into the backfire effect of tour in March in the March but then back out. So yeah, I've been doing this health benefits and I've been doing some hip training, but I need to I think a bit of boxing will be good. I am slightly worried about my wrist but I think I just need to not overdo it. Like today I just need to not break my wrist. Basically simple, simple bonds. Golden Dawn said I can totally relate to all of that both as musicians and in everyday life. Alright. Yeah, it's so easy to focus on the negatives on the positive. Absolutely. I think it's so is a natural thing to concentrate on the negatives and it's as far as I'm aware. So sort of read into this a little bit, as far as I'm aware is kind of an evolutionary response because you have to look for the dangers to another is extreme, but we are still pretty basic. In that kind of level. Sometimes. You look for the dangers so that you can be safe. And it's a similar thing. You look for your weaknesses so that you can then strengthen them I suppose or avoid danger related to their weaknesses. But as I say, I think there is a change from new learning something for instance, and you know, this weakness is all around but there's all really lovely about that and you're sort of like learning stuff. It's exciting, interesting, all of that. But I feel like it does need to be a turning point where you're right. And I'm not saying don't stop. I think we should all be growing in some way or another. But I think the focus needs to shift more onto the strengths. So you can just become that really strong version of yourself strong with the things that you do naturally anyway, and then it's amazing the places that you end up not realising that wow, that will do actually cuz I was just myself. So yeah, it's an interesting idea, and definitely worth an exploration. John says there was someone out there who needs to hear what you have to say in the way you say powerful and I know John, I'd love to say that I made that up. I did not like to say I heard someone say it and it resonated with me so much that I was just like, wow, like, the way because even by hearing that hearing someone say that illustrate that point. Exactly. It was like I needed to hear that very moment. The way they said it, it just wow, God is everything. So again, it's the same musically. Someone needs to have your plan the way that you play with everything that influences how you plan for your music, and their live show. Experience for the entertainment. Whatever it is, you know, it's I mean, lyrics is the most accessible version of that, you know, people will listen to one song or hear lyrics and you can read into a million different ways but it's because that person is projecting them one experience. But isn't it interesting the way that everyone will kind of like interpret it in different ways. I think it's so yes, I think it's the way forward. And I think it's the right route for makers. And now Adam Stanley, John says really feeling all of this right now. Never too late in life to go through another transition. I love this channel. I'm so glad and yeah, again, you have so much to offer. You have so much experience. You're not just for me at least. Obviously I've watched a lot of your videos and we've spoken so much. The whole sort of rock side of your plane, your influences, the kind of metal stuff as well is so amazing. And then there's the fact that you're multi instrumentalist that brings such a whole different layer of stuff into the whole scenario I love and then there's the fact that you're from South Africa. It's like this whole thing and you've toured and yeah, I think it just brings a whole different flavour to whatever you're doing in whatever one we're doing. And also you are doing the tokens campaign so that's really fun as well to kind of like just learn more about you and I love it. I really love it. It's really awesome. Simone says, I have no idea what your business is long. Oh. Do you want me to explain? I'll explain very quickly. So my my main business nocturia is my business and remote recording business is essentially I provide professionally recorded drums for independent artists. And the way that works is an artist or musician will have a song and then drums to be recorded on their music. They will email me their song, but without the drums and then I will record the drums and then I'll email it back. That's the really basic version of what I do. There's a few more intricacies in that but yeah, as far as really businesses and that's the way it works. I work and loving it. I adore it so much it's it's my favourite thing. It really is and Mozia Hello, how are you now? Oh, you're your studio looks amazing. Thank you so much. It's slowly getting darker. I'm wondering if like on hold. Hey, Google, switch on the studio lights. Let's get some more than that. I just feel like I'm gradually maybe doing down and then I'm just going to discipline and nobody will ever know. So Marcus says Oh, and Marcus cartus from says Oh, thank you. That's fabulous advice and has given me a whole bunch of new ideas. Amazing that I'm I'm so glad I'm so glad that you're here and yet like say it's so much easier than the raw materials. Are that's what we have those raw materials Marcus, you're already like, well on that path is just trying stuff out and seeing what works for you and, you know, get creative with it. Just think outside the box and just try. That's what that's literally the whole of my life is that it's just trying stuff I love it. I really I find it very. I said this is almost like when it comes to my business. I often feel like Sherlock Holmes and kind of finding the best way to do something like I don't know just creating something and seeing what happens I adore is one of my favourite things. And so Simone says Oh, you have a sofa now getting comfy. Yes, I do. I have a lovely sofa. It's basically my day because this will be own chair and the whole of the place. And if I'm sat here eating and feel like there's too much distraction to watch on the screen browser, put this up there and just be looking out the window, which I'm pretty sure is much better for the site. And when it gets warmer, I will sit out and eat but you can't see right now mainly because there's affection covering it because I don't have any tattoos yet. And the sun is too bright on my face. When you started the business, did you have any mental hurdles? Oh my goodness. To get over before you started did you doubt yourself? As you said don't be be done. Don't I was constantly in a mental state of accommodating I'm doing this I can't do this. I'm not good enough. I don't know what I'm doing this constant. Nobody's booking him. How do I get myself out there to people constant every day. Every day I felt like a charlatan I still feel like that sometimes. It gets better with time I think just the morning do something. But yeah, I mean, the biggest the biggest issue when I'm very stuck first started and in terms of was that I had no idea how a recording studio works. So I recorded in studios again, but you know your huge amount. A huge amount. But enough to like see it. I didn't understand I didn't understand. I didn't understand preamps I didn't understand how my blood just the very basic level stuff was pretty elusive to me, should we say? But I just was like, Okay, well, I sort of do this thing where I decided to do something. Despite my better judgement a lot of the time and I just said well, I'm going to do it so I'd better work out and that's also my way is my right well, I've already committed to this in my day. So I'm just gonna move out and I have still to be honest things I'm like constantly stuck in queueing. Over the years. It took me a couple years to understand what I was doing. I was messing around with stuff. I certainly didn't know what I was doing. I knew it's always having a little bit better or a little bit worse. I didn't know why. Sometimes I didn't know how to make it sound better, but I would just try some compression I'm getting a little bit better with stone right with that. But that's why I have the raw stems because I know that my love is that's fine because I'm constantly working. I no longer give the best quality perhaps so anyway, yes, constant mental hurdles. Constant imposter syndrome. Again, anytime I would look left and right and what other people doing is a nightmare. Anytime I would talk to people about them people that have been in the studio for a long time, like doing something new, what are you talking about? And again, I still get like this. Before we talk to me about certain mics. I didn't know like they were saying numbers and letters to me and I'm stood there like alright, no idea what you're talking about. Literally no idea and I'm the kind of person that I I never want to look stupid. I'm getting better at it. But I find it really difficult and especially something that's just so out of my depth even now still. I will forget the lights and I know what they are. But anything outside of that my knowledge is so minimal and it's just it's quite embarrassing. Sometimes I'll be completely honest. But if I'm I have friends that I can be like some what is this? Like this is that and that is that and this is good for that and that is usually what is laughing and so it's finding people who are comfortable with enough to ask those questions. It's my biggest downfall in 100% is asking for help. I'm the worst. I'm the worst is my biggest problem. I'm sure that if I was better at that I would be so much further forward in certain aspects of my life. But yeah, it's just it's one of my hang ups. I don't know why I have it but again, I live into it. And I'm like, although I'm never going to ask you for help. I also know I'm really good at forging a path and finding out how things work and just researching myself, like just realise that tangent I was going to go on I forgot about so without being a bit of a Debbie Downer. I when I was a kid, very like my experience of schooling was not great. And the reason was that I never felt like I fit in. I often was kind of a bit of a loner. People wouldn't really like including staff for what I meant was I became very self sufficient. And that has absolutely carried me through into my adult life. And I think it's the reason that I'm able to just don't do stuff and again, I suppose it would have been fun to not ask them for help because I'm worried that people think they're stupid, or you know what I'm doing or whatever and reject me, whatever that means. So I don't bother because I'm like, Well, let me just do the thing and then I'll do it myself. So yeah, I guess again, that's one of my strengths is that I on the whole I'm very good at working with Daniela Longo Roblox I come up to you. I'm like, this is a literal, like steel wall. I will never get through this and they do. But what a really good example of that is opening up there's a programme on Macs called oh, what's it called? Coconut. No, oh, X code X code as it is reprogramming. Making programmes and programming basically. And I one day I was right. I'm going to get into coding, open this Xcode and I looked at it and I was like, I have no like, there is no, there. I've no bearing on what I'm looking at. Like literally this could be in a minute. I don't know what's happening. I don't even know how to start a new project or document I just don't even know what I'm looking at. So things like that. I will just instantly close and go right not for me right now. And maybe I would ask for help with that in the future. But that's important. But on the whole I'm moving on No, I'm good at finding solutions. I do sometimes take the hard path again, I know by myself. But I also know that I means that I'm sort of I can rely on myself. If that makes sense. And I think I stemmed from being a kid. But again, if there's leaving into what you are naturally what your experiences are. That was my experience. This is how I would I change it? Absolutely not. I love the fact that I can do projects by myself. I don't need to learn most when I can but yeah, there's something really powerful about females and alleys here Hello Andy. How are you? Hi all sorry, I couldn't join today. I'm out and about for watching reporting later Big hugs or people popping in and saying hello. That's really kind of you. Simone says the new cat is completely wiped and she is called Cloud. One of my favourite video game titles for Firefox to seven cloud so I am behind this behind a door. Adam says my covers band like me to do a solo at the start of in the middle of Wipeout. Cliche a lot. I mostly dread that bit. Really enjoyed. My solos are so basic. I totally feel the solo fares in this chapter are low but I don't think we are alone. I've been in many Simon theatres here. And yeah, even playing my part I feel like that is definitely setting yourself up for like so funny though, so I'm very commercial. So just think it was? Yeah, it must be me and Johnny says to drums on commercial, we would do a drum server just before we would play the song from 969 Every night every night. He wants to look into he's better than silos down by like 100% but even then it's just not a thing. You know some of them might. It was fun. At least on this tour. You can kind of play off of each other. So that is any moment and it's fun for the audience which is the thing that gets me doing things I don't want to do that I this is bigger than you. This is not about you. This is about the audience. This is about the song doing the thing, just do the thing. So badger is saying I think authenticity in yourself and being a good human being is super important. That is the epitome of how you are doing if you're saying no by me, thank you for this remark I 100% agree and this funny because I know that in this group of people that are here right now and the people that are listening back I'm sure if you're not making yourself known, I guarantee you're like this too because I think people don't like I like people. I think we are all very kind and generous and thoughtful and you know we we care a lot about you that you can tell by the way that people interact on these chats and it's something that I don't take for granted and I feel so grateful. There you go. The people come together and we get to do this thing every day because I love it. I absolutely adore bonds we should not everyone's like that. Not everyone's like that. I have had experiences with people that I thought would like to have and then another one, and it's so heartbreaking. It's so heartbreaking because you know you do come across people that are so really beautiful and then they're so successful as well. You just think you can do those because you know the cliche is never meet your heroes because they're very nice, but actually is not true. And I have met so many millionaires who are the kindest, most generous warm, caring people so not just if you're speaking to him, but the people around them who consumed by their interactions and the people that are around them as well. That they're good souls and not saying that we're human, we're all human. We've got flaws. I'm not perfect, not by any stretch of the imagination. But I do appreciate that, you know, I happen to find myself amongst you guys. And that really the only thing that everyone is incredibly kind. Yeah, just lovely. So yeah, I think being authentic and kind and all that stuff is very important. I don't think everyone's like that. And that's not important. To them. And that's okay. I'd much rather hang out with people that are like, essentially, and don't this is great to hear your stories and see with someone who has struggled with these things thriving well, don't you You're an inspiration. Thank you doing that. So can I just say I think it's really interesting what you're saying. Because a big part of the reason I started this whole podcast and it's not just this one was live and talking about it, I was glad to which had her 100 episodes started back in 2002. And a big part of the reason that a Skype out was to sort of lift the veil on the fact that people would say that I might be out doing this gig not doing doing these cool things and having a great time was but it's never just that. That's the surface level. And it's amazing to see myself so often it doesn't mean that I don't struggle with all the same things that we all struggle with. And I guess it is normalising a little bit. I'm starting to more enjoy the word normalising and I don't know why. But anyway, I'm just making it. Yeah, just mowing the lawn stuff. And that's why you know, yeah, so thank you for saying that, dude, I really appreciate it. It's a very purposeful thing that I'm trying to put out there. And by the way, terrifying events now I really enjoy it because it's kind of like I just get to literally be honest about the fact that you know, I do struggle with stuff sometimes and and Brandon says magic lightning lol Max. Oh, oh lighting. Sorry, can't read. My eyesight is getting really old. Magic lighting lol That's fancy. I do love a gadget random. I do love her gadget and then is a good one and she's that nothing I do like the market says totally identify with trying stuff and not being entirely sure how it works. I was recording today. And I discovered that when I went to MCs that I'd somehow deleted the based on track prior to recording. I had something similar happened literally and for some reason. While I know what is user error, but my employment must be toxic. Just keep it simple recording and that's not that useful. As Marcus's I've decided to use it as a learning experience by boosting the room and overhead mics I might might post the results later if I'm very brave. Yes, Marcus. This is how you think it's not about being perfect. It's not about the finished result is about the process people you love seeing about the process. And if you're the person who's going, Hey, I'm going to be open mothers and I'm gonna you know, just say in the comments. So here's what happened. I you know, I deleted the bass drum track. So now I'm going to compensate let's see what we can do with it, that there was something so valuable about that, and it may seem I know that you're vulnerable. I know because I would. But for my experience, the things that gone wrong are the things that really do show the human side of people and I don't know about you and my favourite thing as well as to see people when soon so prim and proper and perfect when they have those human moments when they're not. And something goes wrong and seeing them deal with that. And then you see no finesse or they might have women deal with it or they might do it in such a roundabout way that we never think of is really inspiring in such an unusual way. Then something so powerful. And honestly, I think that was the thing when I was support when I was launching a new Johnstone recording for people more often than not, it was when things were going wrong, that we'd have the best time because honestly, I'd be sat here for reaching out. How am I going to fix this? Not only is Do I have an audience, but oh look, the artist is also on the live stream too awesome. Oh my goodness, what am I going to do and freaking out but on the on the outside scene it's trying to influence let's do that. Just notice I think that the signal is dropping a little bit. So I apologise if you're missing your web browser, but I will be uploading everything. But I found the best workarounds for doing that and he will work with me and I think it definitely made sort of drove her community a lot tighter. And it was really nice and I think people are seeing that. I don't know everything that I know very little. I know a few things and things go wrong as I go shuffling off the rails. But we would learn together and sometimes people would offer up solutions. So it's the one thing I never got around and I think it was a glitch within Logic because I later found out that people aren't the same thing. So there used to be this problem with comping between Tate is the tapes weren't exactly the same length. If you can't, sometimes they would jump and it would just completely mess up and glitch and I also just happened that sometimes you didn't notice until we got to the end of the song notice that oh, that one tracks so the kick drum track and why is that keeping going after the song is finished? Oh, that's a completely different type in a completely different section and it does not line up. And now we'll do that we'll have more often than not, and it was so frustrating. But again, it was kind of just part of the process. And again, when you're live streaming doing that, I'll tell you what, perfect the thing, but you don't Dawn says great to hear you got through those obstacles and worked your difficulties. You did a great job for us with surfing. We were very happy definitely food for thought. Thanks. No problem, Don and I said that was a disaster. All Songs review and Sophie mod were so much fun to do like so much fun. So many drums so many drum tracks. I apologise again for the amount of drum tracks. That like here we go right. So if anyone is new here, me and matt black have a very specific relationship. It often consists of him asking me something kind of this whole language would you prefer? And maybe giving the most political answer that you've ever heard because my brain just cannot commit to something. I don't know what it is. It only happens with that I feel but who don't quite well you ask me to say so. If we are physical about quizzes, oh, what are we about test two good one. We've moved to junks. I get the choice. I never know the answer. Do I just say this? I'm going to solve it for Natalie. So it was a cause now if we are physical about cuisines what are we about tests are we testicles? I know I am already. Anyway. Jake. We're at home. We just wanted to pop in quickly and say hi. We'll of course catch up on the recording. Yes, please do because I think that second question that I did before we went in the room as it were was for you, Jake. So yeah, here's what's back and I think it would have been around the half hour mark and I definitely went on a tangent with it. So enjoy that. I hope it helps. My black here we go. This is a classic matte black. Would you rather have a time machine or teleprinter? This is how can you ask this question? How can you decide between because do you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna come in. I'm used to travelling on planes a lot. And although it would be lovely to have a telephone, we've got a guy with a time machine rather than me and tell you we're having this conversation could always go who's that right. So if you could like go back in time to any period of time it would have been I think you're allowed to train and we were allowed to in the UK and wonderful. So I think I chose the eight like an ancient Egyptian here and I don't know enough about it. I know it lasted a long time so I don't know when that was but I'd love to see that. And then in the UK when the dinosaurs are around, but on the Jurassic Coast, I assume it's called the Jurassic Coast because it had like dinosaurs rights were very bad. What was the other one? I think it was just like being in London by the beginning of London information about them. Just seeing what that was like. I think last year it was more his was. I think we had some some crossover. He said, Yeah, teleport and no not teleport. Time machines means matte black. Yes, I've actually answered one of your questions. First time ever long. may it continue. Simone says the first drum set I remember was from the Greek soundtrack in the on the on the song hand jive as a kid. I thought it was amazing to know what had never even occurred to me though, is a bronzer on hand. John says brilliant. I love that, as mentored me. Have you ever used analogue recording and if so, what do you think about? So? I have? Yes. In my studio, the Minister of analogue is analogue to digital if that makes sense. When I was recording with a bank of ours, we were doing analogue. Yeah, it was analogue. Tape for them to digital and the reason for that was because in terms of editing is just a lot easier and I know there is a certain there's a beautiful Ness about recording fully analogue, but for me practically it does. Definitely and plus, it's taken me this long to work out the digital side and I know that analogue is even more complicated. I don't have the capacity. I know this about myself. So yeah, but I appreciate people we're dealing with it to analogue because it is a whole thing. It's a whole thing. Adam says I like drum parts rather than solos and little 100% Love your tempo. The quality of my solos depend depends entirely on my mood. And using the power of speech which may be used to wrap up soon, and it's got to be in the context of the song really chop that stuff up sooner than later. I say, Yeah, I'm the same, like, just making short and sweet and lovely. That is my thing. 100% And yeah, I think anything in the context of the song and exactly what you're saying. There's nothing more jarring to me than even a film that is not within the comfort like within the genre within the realms of what the song is in terms of like pace or you know, subdivisions or feel or whatever. Honestly, when I hear people doing fills up content, it just, oh, it gives me the avatar which and know what it is. We can be friends. Adam says, oh my god, the logic comping glitch is a thing. God, that was a learning experience. I don't say it wasn't learning experience for me. I kept learning that lesson and it never went away. I will say on the news. I've got a Mac Mini here with the M one chip haven't had the problem yet. Which is interesting. And I wonder if it's because it's a new version of logic. I don't know why. It's interesting. So far, so good. So fingers crossed, it carries on but you are not alone. mapset I've heard about lots of people that have the same problem. It's just a glitch. It's a which glitches annoy them living daylights out of me because I like solving problems. And I don't like when there's not a solution. Again, this is just part of my brain and that's how I work and it really makes me feel uncomfortable. But it makes me really annoying into it. So it's been Marcus says Since we're on the jokes are crying out loud. So now you're gonna realise how terrible I am actually, understanding jokes. Okay, since we're onto jokes is a very good reason not to do drum solos. They're always followed by bass and then as we get run over, and over. Know, John says no bedfellows songs like songs. Matt likes said, Oh, here we go Matt's off because he wants me to have a non answer answer. Would you rather live one life of 1000 years and 10 lives that last 100 years each? Wow. Here's a question for you. And I'm going to be ending this soon. So please be quick. The 10 lines the last 100 years are they going to be concurrent or can they be like 100 years in the 2000 BC. He didn't want to do that that sort of time anyway. And then I don't know, like 100 years now and then 100 years in 3022 or, or are they just going to be compared so concurrent? Okay. Wait, that's the same thing? No, oh, no. Because, well, I don't think I could be doing much 1000 years old I'd probably be a probably been a decrepid kind of like skeleton and there's so many factors him Matt, you give me right I decide do Oh, another question. Do I have the knowledge of the previous light 100 years to navigate lives the lives do I always get a brand new life I don't remember the last slide and everyone is listening on the podcast back here and I'll Matt did say oh my gosh, I go straight onto remembering you did but now you're trying to get me another one. So they're concurrent. ere we go. It's very important, the details. The details are very important. Because you have 1000 years worth of knowledge, right but if you're living 100 years and you start off your new life is no age, then, although I'd probably look like a dusty skeleton 1000 years, I think I'd rather have the knowledge of everything, rather than starting afresh every time. Yes, 1000 years. Let's do that. Plus, if no one else is living through 1000 years, then that I will be a very what's the word? I will have a very unique perspective ducking the question again. I'm not asking question. You're definitely the question anyway. Right. That is I just want to say thank you so much for being here who are matte black. I'm sure you will come back with another question at some point next time. Hopefully, vs module is upon us. But thank you, everyone for being here. I hope that you've gleaned something from my mad brain mad ramblings and I hope that it helps you in some way. There's been loving SEO as ever and yes I guess I will be back next week with another subject. I just realised that I don't have my usual thing together. Oh, what's this? Oh, sorry about that. Yeah, lovely too. I'm gonna love you. I'm gonna leave you have a wonderful week and I will see you next week on another subject. You know, you know the I'll see you guys
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